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Post by Bradfordsborough on Dec 20, 2013 1:59:03 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I told Point Breeze, via telegram, that whatever decision is made regarding our involvement in an alliance will be done so by our elected representatives. That is my intention. We need to focus on recruiting more WA nations to our region, especially now that we have all the tools of a functioning region.
It's also fair to say that a wait-and-see approach never hurt anyone.
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Post by The Church of Satan on Dec 20, 2013 3:11:56 GMT -5
The Founderless Regions Alliance actively participates in defending still (I'm an FRA Army Ranger.) I myself am also a member of the Rejected Realms Army too. So I have enough intel to know when some regions are in need of defense.
Every region has a right to safety, security and thrive without the threat of invasion.
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Post by Point Breeze on Dec 20, 2013 3:20:24 GMT -5
It's great to know we have solid, active allies out there.
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Post by The Church of Satan on Dec 20, 2013 5:00:10 GMT -5
Yes. Although regions like The Black Riders claim that nobody is fighting against them, that is a blatant lie. I myself fought alongside The Rejected Realms last month to save a region from The Black Riders. So don't go believing their propaganda.
Every region has a right to safety, security and thrive without the threat of invasion.
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Post by Bradfordsborough on Dec 20, 2013 16:15:25 GMT -5
Sure, they do have a right to safety and security....but I will say this: I'm hard pressed to have any sympathy for nations who chose to remain in a founderless region, knowing full well that their region was a target. Most of these regions weren't "thriving" as you say...they were sputtering their way into oblivion.
Your rhetoric is a little over the top...wouldn't you say?
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Post by Point Breeze on Dec 20, 2013 16:20:08 GMT -5
Sure, they do have a right to safety and security....but I will say this: I'm hard pressed to have any sympathy for nations who chose to remain in a founderless region, knowing full well that their region was a target. Most of these regions weren't "thriving" as you say...they were sputtering their way into oblivion. Your rhetoric is a little over the top...wouldn't you say? Some players find it hypocritical that you can opt out of roleplays, the WA, even the game's issues, but R/D is the only mod-sanctioned part of the game there is no "opting out" of. As you said, any region whose founder CTE's or otherwise becomes inactive is a potential target. It 's a double standard, and many, many players take offense. |
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Post by The Church of Satan on Dec 20, 2013 20:39:53 GMT -5
Breeze is right. When a founder CTE's, that's something the natives of a region have no control over. They choose to stay because they care for their region. The history and culture is best preserved when the region is still their. Raiders are no different in that regard. If The Black Riders founder CTE'd they would still stay for the same reasons any other nation would.
Every region has a right to safety, security and thrive without the threat of invasion.
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Post by Gaed on Dec 20, 2013 21:38:39 GMT -5
I'm not familiar enough with nation states to understand the raiding process, Dux having been the only region I have committed to. I can only abstain, but I also believe we should wait to get more members before deciding. We really need more people to make a real decision.
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Post by Austrur on Dec 20, 2013 23:03:11 GMT -5
I do agree with waiting - even if we wanted to move more actively in the R/D sphere, we would need more numbers so as to (1) secure our own delegacy and (2) have sufficient forces to move on our enemies as we wish.
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Post by Austrur on Dec 20, 2013 23:06:18 GMT -5
Sure, they do have a right to safety and security....but I will say this: I'm hard pressed to have any sympathy for nations who chose to remain in a founderless region, knowing full well that their region was a target. Most of these regions weren't "thriving" as you say...they were sputtering their way into oblivion. Your rhetoric is a little over the top...wouldn't you say? Some players find it hypocritical that you can opt out of roleplays, the WA, even the game's issues, but R/D is the only mod-sanctioned part of the game there is no "opting out" of. As you said, any region whose founder CTE's or otherwise becomes inactive is a potential target. It 's a double standard, and many, many players take offense. But of course, the R/D is essentially uses game mechanics, which there isn't an opt-out for. Our region has no issues, as we have an active founder, and regions that are founderless do have protection with a sufficiently strong delegate (take a look at the European Union - it's founderless but it is defended well with 43 endorsements). I am, of course, not condoning some of the actions done, but I think that I do disagree with how you phrase the R/D aspect. I've managed to go quite some time (six years now) without really focusing/paying "real" attention to R/D, so I think it can be done. |
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Post by Point Breeze on Dec 21, 2013 1:42:04 GMT -5
Some players find it hypocritical that you can opt out of roleplays, the WA, even the game's issues, but R/D is the only mod-sanctioned part of the game there is no "opting out" of. As you said, any region whose founder CTE's or otherwise becomes inactive is a potential target. It 's a double standard, and many, many players take offense. But of course, the R/D is essentially uses game mechanics, which there isn't an opt-out for. Our region has no issues, as we have an active founder, and regions that are founderless do have protection with a sufficiently strong delegate (take a look at the European Union - it's founderless but it is defended well with 43 endorsements). I am, of course, not condoning some of the actions done, but I think that I do disagree with how you phrase the R/D aspect. I've managed to go quite some time (six years now) without really focusing/paying "real" attention to R/D, so I think it can be done. I understand, and thankfully this is not a widespread problem, but it is a possibility. |
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Post by JesusGotDaBooty on Jan 9, 2014 8:52:21 GMT -5
I would rather like to be a bit like Switzerland, although, we might be a little large for that. So I agree in the vast majority of being Defender like the best of them! The best way would be building up a military and allowing it to grow a bit. I already have 7% of my government going towards defense, and I think to have a good military in place would be great.
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Post by Sword and Shield on Jan 10, 2014 20:59:23 GMT -5
I would like the region to side on the defender edge of the spectrum, but at our current state and size I think active defender operations are a bit out of reach. With an active founder and non-executive WA Delegate raiders are little more than a nuisance to us, so we have little need for defender allies. I support aiding other regions in the face of raiding but as the invasion today has shown, we must secure our own house first.
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Post by Austrur on Jan 10, 2014 22:38:42 GMT -5
I would like the region to side on the defender edge of the spectrum, but at our current state and size I think active defender operations are a bit out of reach. With an active founder and non-executive WA Delegate raiders are little more than a nuisance to us, so we have little need for defender allies. I support aiding other regions in the face of raiding but as the invasion today has shown, we must secure our own house first. What we do elsewhere is something that we need to decide, though I have no particular issues with a defender-leaning stance. As today's seizure of the delegacy has shown, regardless of what we do outside our region, we should at least figure out how to secure our own region, through whatever means we choose to use. |
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Post by Point Breeze on Jan 10, 2014 23:47:42 GMT -5
I think the immediate concern is adding more WA nations. Shoring up the delegacy is the best option.
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